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Silverstone Sg03 + Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R + Intel Q6600 + Zalman CNPS8700 LED = Too Hot?
Mar 3rd
This was something i posted over at HardForums a while back. It was a problem with getting the temperatures down on a new build. The build included a Silverstone Sg03 Case, Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R motherboard, Zalman CNPS8700 LED HSF, and an Intel Q6600 processor. The problem with the build was the case was a small form factor case with a small motherboard and a blazing fast (but hot) processor. The way the case is setup is the power supply sits directly over the CPU and Heatsink and Fan. The Sg03 is great because you can put the latest processor, full ATX PSU, and full length video cards in it. The downside is it’s all packed in such a small area and the temperature are bound to get hot. To make matters worse, there is very little ventilation in the back side of the case.
Sg03 + GA-G33M-DS2R + Q6600 = too hot?
(i have a similar post in Overclocking and Cooling but i thought SFF group might have more experience with this type of setup)I have a GA-G33M-DS2R and Q6600 in a Sg03 case, my cooler is a CNPS8700 LED and my temps are really high idle and at load. At first i thought the high temps were because i had applied the Arctic Silver 5 incorrectly ( i spread out the paste on the entire cooler instead of the single line of paste in the middle like Arctic Silver suggests.) I also tried moving the case fan to blow more directly on the CPU (stock configuration has the case fan in the middle) Temps didn’t really change much.Here are my temps with no overclocking.
SpeedFan 4.32
Idle: 37C, 35C, 33C, 33C
Load (after 20min of Orthos): 76C, 75C, 75C, 75CCoreTemp 0.95
Idle 52C, 50C, 48C, 47C
load (after 20min Orthos): 91C, 90C, 90C, 90CTJunction on this CPU is 100C
The next step i’ve found to reduce my temps would be to remove the CPU retention clip so there will be better contact between the heatsink and CPU. i might try lapping as well.
here is the clip i’m talking about and an example of someone that did it::
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=229063
To solve the problem i tried a few things. First, i went with the CNPS8700 LED over the stock heatsink which brought the temps down a couple degrees. My q6600 has the old stepping so it ran a little hotter. Both heatsinks worked fine, i initially bought the CNPS8700 LED because i thought the stock heatsink wouldn’t fit. The CNPS8700 LED dropped the temps by a few degrees so depending if that decrease in temperature is worth it to you, you may just want to go with the stock HSF. If i was building the computer again i would have saved the money on the Zalman CNPS8700 LED.
I ended up not touching the cpu retention clip because it didnt seem like it was causing the problem. The high temps were because i didnt apply the thermal grease optimally. If you have arctic silver 5, check the website for the proper way to apply the grease. You can see it here.
Another thing that really helped the temps was putting a slot cooler in the top slot above the power supply. i put mine in with a fan regulator to keep the noise down. When the case is upright, the cpu is close to that area, and since heat rises, the slot cooler does a good job exhausting heat from the case.
The final temps using CoreTemp V.95 were:
The final temps using CoreTemp V.95 were:
Idle:
42 degrees to TJunction remaining
44 degrees to TJunction remaining
46 degrees to TJunction remaining
48 degrees to TJunction remaining
Full Load:
26 degrees to TJunction remaining
27 degrees to TJunction remaining
28 degrees to TJunction remaining
28 degrees to TJunction remaining
The build also had two 120mm scythe fans up front and the fan controlled slot cooler in the top rear like i mentioned earlier. As you can see the temps run sorta high but not too high. The system is 100% stable. I did not do any overclocking and the system is extremely quiet. I also had tried flipping the PSU so its fan can help exhaust the CNPS8700 LED but it really didn’t make a difference. Overall i was happy with the build and would pick the same parts again.
Random BSOD With Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P Motherboard and Corsair CMX8GX3M4A1600C9 Memory (8gb kit)
Feb 27th
I built a new system using a Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P Motherboard and Corsair CMX8GX3M4A1600C9 Memory (8gb kit). After the install i kept getting random BSOD (Blues Screen of Death) reboots. I tried letting the bios auto detect the sticks and the system defaults to 1333mhz. I tried allowing the BIOS to enable the XMP profile which recognizes them as 1600mhz (which they are rated at). I also tried other bios settings and was still experiencing random reboots. I even ran memtest86+ for over 10 hours and the memory checked out fine; also ran prime95 for several hours and the system was rock solid. I did extensive troubleshooting within windows (examining minidumps, changing drivers, etc) to no avail. I even bought a new kit of the same RAM and ran the same tests, same problem. At this point, you would think, the ram was not compatible with this board but after extensive searching i found the following page on Tomshardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/266033-30-ud3r-random-reboots
(NOTE: Tom’s Hardware won’t let me directly link to it so copy and paste the link to see it)
Take note of Bilbat’s post and craigusoz post. The instability with this Corsair RAM and the Gigabyte boards seems to have to do with the CPU EIST / C1E / C3/6/7 / turbo boost support functions found in the BIOS.
My problems were solved tweaking these bios settings. Turing on or off some of these CPU power saving functions may not be ideal but were good enough for me. 100% stable now.
Note: I was experiencing random BSOD on windows 7 x64. my board is GA-P55A-UD4P and my memory was Corsair CMX8GX3M4A1600C9 XMS3 8 GB PC3-12800 Core i5 Memory Kit
8gb kit was CMX8GX3M4A1600C9.
Additional Email Addresses With Gmail or Use One Email Address with Multiple Twitter Accounts
Feb 27th
Here’s a little tip for gmail users. Gmail allows you to create multiple addresses using the same gmail address. Say you have the username howifixedit@gmail.com. By appending a “+” to it allows you to extend it and thus create a new address that will go to the same account. For Example:
howifixedit+computers@gmail.com
howifixedit+cellphones@gmail.com
howifixedit+internet@gmal.com
howifixedit+aroundtheweb@gmail.com
Will all go to the howifixedit@gmail.com account.
You can also add a “.” to any address and it will still go to the account in question. For example:
howifixed.it@gmail.com
howi.fixedit@gmail.com
how.ifixedit@gmail.com
how.i.fixed.it@gmail.com
Will all go to howifixedit@gmail.com email box.
Finally you can also use the @googlemail.com as the suffix for your email address and it will go to yourr gmail account. So howifixedit@gmail.com is the same as howifixedit@googlemail.com.
This is really useful when you want to sign up at different websites around the net. For example if you wanted to sign up for multiple accounts on Twitter. Using howifixedit@gmail.com and how.i.fixed.it@gmail.com will allow you to sign up for two twitter account and all your alerts will go to your main account. Another reason this is useful is for signing up for anything you may potentially be getting junk mail from. For example, if Doritos has a contest to sign up for free XBOX Live points, like it had in the past, you can sign up for it using howifixedit+doritoscontest@gmail.com. All the info would go to your main account and in the future if you were to get any spam or advertisements to howifixedit+doritoscontest@gmail.com you would know Doritos was the one that gave out your email address to advertisers or spammers.
Kuler From Adobe
Feb 27th
Kuler is a an Adobe website that lets you create your own custom color pallets. I haven’t used it much but it seems like a great addition to any creative person’s arsenal.
Here is one custom color pallet that i created using the blue mosaic idk.jpg from here.
G1 Locked! “Too Many Pattern Attempts”
Feb 26th
The first time this happened my phone was in my pocket and it locked itself out (I was running RC33 version of JFv1.41). I had pattern lock enabled so i was getting “Too many pattern attempts. please login”
No matter how i put my information in username (by itself), username@gmail.com, username@googlemail.com it wouldn’t authenticate me.No matter what i did i was not able to get in so i just reflashed the phone. After a reflash the authentication worked fine. At that time I was using one of JFs ROMS so i figured that may have been the issue.
Recently the problem happened again. This time i was using one of Cyanogens ROMS. This time instead of flashing the phone i followed haykuro’s thread to defeat pattern lock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485988
once i did those adb commands and rebooted the phone it asked to authenticate again but this time it worked! After it authenticates it will ask you for a new unlock pattern. And you’re all set!
This is a really annoying problem and im surprised more people aren’t having it. I hope this helps somebody.
